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Billy's avatar

I really like the case you make for KTP. My goal is to someday do KTP, but, for me at least, it seems like parallel poly is inevitably going to be a stepping stone towards that.

I don't have an abundance of partner selection yet. The people I date like parallel poly. It's a lot simpler in the short term. As those relationships develop I would like to integrate them in some way with my other partners and community and/or get to know their partners, but I'm not quite there with anyone yet.

Maybe someday I'll date an existing polycule, but outside of that it feels really challenging to setup KTP without having lots and lots of people that desperately want to date me.

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I guess this is a simplified breakdown; I would posit that labeling everything where communication happens between metamores as KTP is oversimplified?

I would argue that if there is a spectrum between garden-party Poly to KTP to Lap Sitting Poly, there are a few missing colors in that spectrum? Also a dimension.

The missing dimension is cohabitation; there is very definitely a thing where a core polycule cohabitates and the members have satellites that don’t cohabitate. At the other end of that dimension is solo poly people, who very definitely do not want to cohabitate.

I’m more familiar with a definition of KTP where that describes the cohabitating core polycule— it’s not just any kitchen table, it’s the kitchen table at the home you share.

So for example one of my SOs is basically solo poly, and for the most part I would say that I have a ‘garden party’ with most of the partners of hers, but am kind of her default +1. At some point I became her longest current relationship, so I’ve met most but not everyone else she’s dated in the years we have been together.

My other partner cohabs with one of her partners; when I visit her sometimes we hang out with her cohabiting partner and this past Xmas I actually spent with her and my meta at his family Christmas. So that would be KTP by your definition, but also doesn’t feel KTP because of the inherent power hierarchy that comes from them cohabitating and me not. I guess in my head KTP implies hierarchical equality, whereas in this situation I feel more like a very welcome guest, or maybe a better analogy is like for her I am direct family but for him (the meta) I am extended family?

For myself, beyond these two partners when I date there is a threshold, so a new person gets introduced to my SOs if I’ve ‘caught feelings’ essentially (I am kinky so I have like play partners and sometimes swing, so.. yeah not every connection is relationship oriented?)

In any case, I agree that integration is good, but also I think it’s more complicated based on the types of non-monogamy/poly that are practiced. Another complication is just personalities; not everybody is going to gel as a social unit. My two SOs get along fine, but would not like hang out independent of me; they are very different people, so actually having all three of us together for me is an exercise in making sure I am not third wheeling either of them.

Which brings up kind of a third dimension, which I think maybe is less a part of your practice of poly; namely distance. My solo poly partner is an hour’s drive away while my other partner is a plane flight away. So opportunity to mix/mingle is also a dimension; my LDR partner is more online and I communicate with her much more, while my localish solo poly partner is very much NOT online.

Which is to say: integration is good, but the degree to which integration is even possible is dependent on a number of factors.

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